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Crowd size matters, because if a person
cannot tell the truth about small things, how can that person be expected to
relate truth about the big stuff?
-- 2015 --
September 24: 'Liar!': Donald Trump attacks
The New York Times for besmirching his 'massive' crowd size
Real-estate tycoon Donald Trump is furious that The New York Times did not
properly estimate his crowd size at a Wednesday campaign event.
"Liar!" the Republican presidential candidate
fumed on Instagram the next day.
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-nyt-crowd-size
-- 2017 --
Undated: National Park Service inauguration
photos challenge Trump's crowd size claims
http://wjla.com/news/offbeat/national-park-service-releases-inauguration-crowd-photos-that-challenge-trump-claims
January 21: Trump overstates crowd size at
inaugural
Trump is wrong. Photos of the National Mall from his inauguration make clear
that the crowd did not extend to the Washington Monument. Large swaths of empty
space are visible on the Mall.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/21/fact-check-trump-overstates-crowd-size-at-inaugural.html
January 22: President Trump, spokesman say
US media 'lied' over inauguration crowd size
Donald Trump and his chief spokesman launched an unprecedented assault on the
media today on the US president's first full day in office, accusing reporters
of downplaying the turnout at his inauguration.
In the process, they failed to acknowledge post-inauguration protests which drew
millions around the world.
Trump, visiting the Central Intelligence Agency headquarters in nearby Langley,
Virginia, insisted against all evidence that he drew 1.5 million people to his
Friday swearing-in ceremony.
... This pair of photos shows a view of the crowd on the National Mall at the
inaugurations of President Barack Obama, above, and President Donald Trump,
below.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11786838
January 23: Trump Inauguration: (Crowd) Size
Matters, So Who's Lying?
Not since “dressgate” has an optical illusion caused so much havoc.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/logical-take/201701/trump-inauguration-crowd-size-matters-so-whos-lying
January 26: President Trump reportedly spent
his first day in office requesting photos from the National Park Service to
prove his
debunked claim that there were more than a million people at his
inauguration.
https://nypost.com/2017/01/26/trump-spent-his-1st-day-in-office-arguing-about-crowd-size-report/
June 27: No, The National Park Service
Didn't Alter Photos of Trump's Inauguration Crowd
http://time.com/4834745/national-park-service-trump-inauguration-crowd-size-report/
April 20: Another Trump crowd size dispute,
this one involving the New England Patriots
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/ct-patriots-donald-trump-size-white-house-20170420-story.html
August 29: TV and social media coverage
showed that the site of [Trump;s] campaign rally, [at] the Phoenix Convention
Center, was less than full. ... Trump later had his top security aide, Keith
Schiller, inform Gigicos [Republican National Committee contractor, and former
White House director of advance] that he’d never manage a Trump rally again [due
to the small crowd size]
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-28/trump-is-said-to-punish-longtime-aide-after-angry-phoenix-speech
August 29: [In his Phoenix
Convention Center speech, Trump] threatened to shut down the federal government
unless Congress funds construction of the Mexican border wall he promised in his
campaign.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-28/trump-is-said-to-punish-longtime-aide-after-angry-phoenix-speech
August 29: City of Phoenix
spokeswoman Julie Watters tried to back up Trump’s claim of 15,000 [attending
his rally speech], though she
said there weren’t that many people in the venue. “There were more than
10,000 inside and there were approximately between 4,500 to 5,000 outside who
were turned away because the event was wrapping up,” she said. Jon Hotchkiss of
Be Less Stupid, who attended the event, estimated that the number of people who
saw Trump speak was more like 4,000.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/trump-fires-event-organizer-over-crowd-size-at-phoenix-rally.html
August 29: After waiting for hours in
107-degree heat to get into the rally hall — where their water bottles were
confiscated by security — people were tired and dehydrated and the president
just wasn’t keeping their attention. ... Trump has long been the master of
reading the mood of a room [but many attendees left the rally early].
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/trump-fires-event-organizer-over-crowd-size-at-phoenix-rally.html
August 29: Trump Praises Crowd Size, Fails
to Acknowledge Harvey Victims in Texas Visit
https://www.sacurrent.com/the-daily/archives/2017/08/29/trump-praises-crowd-size-fails-to-acknowledge-harvey-victims-in-texas-visit
August 29:
Trump punishes aide
over Phoenix crowd size
As his surrogates warmed up the audience, the
expanse of shiny concrete eventually filled in with cheering Trump fans. But it
was too late for a longtime Trump aide, George Gigicos, the former White House
director of advance who had organized the event as a contractor to the
Republican National Committee. Trump later had his top security aide, Keith
Schiller, inform Gigicos that he’d never manage a Trump rally again, according
to three people familiar with the matter.
Gigicos, one of the four longest-serving political aides to the president,
declined to comment.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/08/29/trump-punishes-aide-over-phoenix-crowd-size/
September 17: Sean Spicer crashes Emmys,
mocks Trump crowd-size claims
Too soon? Some on social media weren't ready to see the former White House press
secretary -- and his famed podium -- playing along with a comedy skit.
https://www.cnet.com/news/sean-spicer-emmys-melissa-mccarthy-donald-trump-snl-moving-podium/
December 10: Trump attacks reporter over
already-deleted crowd size tweet
There is some irony to Trump criticizing someone for lying about crowd size.
President Donald Trump called for a Washington Post journalist to be fired
Saturday over an erroneous tweet about the crowd size at one of his rallies. The
reporter quickly apologized for the mix-up and had deleted the tweet, because
that’s generally what you do when you make mistakes. Except when you’re Trump,
who has throughout his tenure refused to back down from even the most obvious
falsities.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/12/10/16758148/trump-dave-weigel-washington-post-crowd-size
December 28: Trump inflates 2016 Grand
Rapids crowd size
More than a year later, President Donald Trump is still talking about
winning Michigan, though his claim on a particular campaign crowd size misses
the mark.
When Trump held a rally this month in Pensacola, Florida, he bragged he had more
than 30,000 people at his 2016 election-eve rally in Grand Rapids at a DeVos
Place hall.
“We went to Michigan, the night of the election. I got there, started speaking
at 12:30 in the evening. It was already Election Day. We had 32,000 people
there,” Trump said.
But the president’s estimate is about eight to 10 times more people than could
have fit inside the west Michigan venue.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2017/12/28/trump-inflates-grand-rapids-crowd/108954352/
-- 2018 --
January 28: Donald Trump brought up crowd
sizes again while in Davos
https://www.indy100.com/article/donald-trump-davos-crowd-size-world-economic-forum-crowd-size-robert-mueller-8179506
February 14: Trump's screaming fit at size
of his inauguration crowd is revealed as Reince Priebus tells how he ordered
proof it was bigger than Obama's
Trump started throwing out orders. 'Call [Interior Secretary] Ryan Zinke. Find
out from the Park Service. Tell him to get a picture and do some research right
away,' the president demanded, essentially telling Priebus to solve the
problem.
Priebus tried to talk the president down, but ultimately decided it wasn't worth
trying to fight him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5393207/Reince-reveals-Trump-screaming-fit-inaugural-crowd-size.html
March 24: March For Our Lives crowd
estimates trump Trump's inauguration
Facts don't lie. That's as true now as it was at Donald Trump's January 2017
inauguration
The estimated turnout at the March For Our Lives demonstration in Washington,
D.C. falls at around 800,000. That data point comes from official connected to
the demonstration's organizers, speaking to NBC.
Days after the inauguration, an expert in crowd science compared photos of
Trump's with Barack Obama's and deduced that the former attracted roughly
one-third the crowd of the latter. It's hard to be exact when dealing with such
massive numbers of people, but with Obama's estimated inauguration attendance
1.8 million, Trump's total falls somewhere in the realm of 600,000.
We point this out only because Trump infamously made such a big deal out of his
inauguration crowd. He sent his then-White House press secretary Sean Spicer out
to proclaim that Trump's crowd "was the largest audience to witness an
inauguration, period."
https://mashable.com/2018/03/24/march-for-our-lives-trump-inauguration-crowd-size/#3yw2r4YMbiqB
April 16: Comey: Trump
Wouldn’t Shut Up About The Inauguration Crowd To Me, Either
The former FBI director mentioned the crowd-size kerfuffle as an example of
Trump lying in private as well as in public.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/comey-trump-inauguration_us_5ad4194de4b077c89ce9efea
April 30:
Trump Just Can’t Stop Lying About Crowd Size
While the rest of the “alt-right” was gathered at a Hilton in Washington, D.C.,
for the White House Correspondents’ Dinner, the president was busy stroking his
ego by holding another rally for himself, this time in Michigan, and lying,
again, about crowd size.
According to the Detroit Free Press,
DeVos Place in downtown Grand Rapids, Mich., where Trump held the rally, has a
capacity of 4,200. Unless each person was carrying two people, ain’t no way in
Trump’s White House (the earthly version of hell) that there were 32,000 people
in attendance [as Trump claimed].
https://www.theroot.com/trump-just-cant-stop-lying-about-crowd-size-1825651719
May 19: Former President
Jimmy Carter took a sly dig at President
Donald Trump Saturday as he hyped the size of the crowd listening to his
commencement speech at the Liberty University a year after Trump spoke at the
school's graduation.
"This is a wonderful crowd," Carter mused. "It's even bigger -- and I hate to
say this -- than it was last year."
Several in the crowd of graduates and parents chuckled and clapped.
https://abcnews.go.com/News/president-jimmy-carter-ribs-president-trumps-crowd-size/story?id=55285075
May 19:
BBC Three, the online television channel that targets younger audiences, trolled
President Donald Trump just as the country was mesmerized watching the royal
wedding between Prince Harry and Meghan Markle on Saturday. The BBC channel took
to Twitter to share
side-by-side
photos showing the crowds outside Windsor Castle alongside the crowds at the
National Mall on the day Trump was inaugurated.
BBC Three was not the only one to make the comparison. J.K. Rowling, who often
tweets against Trump,
also posted
side-by-side photos with the words Love > Hate.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/bbc-trolls-trump-over-inauguration-crowd-size-in-royal-wedding-tweet.html
May 30: The New York Times has corrected a
crowd size estimate it provided following
President Trump's rally in Nashville, Tenn., on Tuesday night, after
receiving sharp criticism from the president.
The paper on Wednesday stated that attendance was more than five times larger
than estimates it had originally reported.
“While no exact figure is available, the fire marshal’s office estimated that
approximately 5,500 people attended the rally, not about 1,000 people,” the
correction stated.
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/389925-nyt-corrects-crowd-size-estimate-at-rally-after-trump-criticism
October 10: Trump claims 44,000 people were
outside his Springfield rally
Police spokeswoman Jasmine Bailey said, "The only definitive number I can give
you is that we know at least 12,000 people showed up."
https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2018/10/10/donald-trump-springfield-rally-crowd-size-attendance/1569753002/
October 23: Donald Trump Is Still Lying
About His Crowd Sizes Almost 2 Years Into His Presidency
At a rally in Houston on Monday evening, the president boasted, without
evidence, that there were 50,000 people were watching the event outside the
arena. Contradicting Trump's account, Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo tweeted
that there were only 3,000 people watching outside the Toyota Center
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-lying-crowd-sizes-rally-1183076
November 19: Fact Checker ... President
Trump’s crowd-size estimates: Increasingly unbelievable
Trump has been inflating the size of his crowds since his early days as a
candidate. His presidency began with
a surreal national debate over how many people attended his inauguration.
And this year, at midterm campaign rallies across the country, the president’s
crowd-size boasts became a big bugaboo for fact-checkers. There’s no question
Trump can draw supporters by the thousands, but his pumped-up numbers are so
extravagant most of the time that they have little or no basis in fact.
For example, Trump claimed 50,000 people were outside a rally in Houston because
they couldn’t get in, but the city’s police chief said the number was much
lower: 3,000. In Cleveland, Trump claimed “thousands” of people were outside
because the venue was packed. But Twitter users at the event posted evidence
that Trump didn’t fill the venue and that only a handful of people were milling
around in the parking lot.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/19/president-trumps-crowd-size-estimates-increasingly-unbelievable/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0ac4ce55de49
-- 2019 --
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